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CANADIAN BROADCAST STANDARDS COUNCIL PRAIRIE REGIONAL PANEL CJAY-FM re Forbes and Friends (Chinese Language Translations ) (CBSC Decision 02/03-1646) Decided April 16, 2004 D. Ish (Chair), V. Cownden, D. Dobbie, V. Dubois, J. Fong and R. Gallagher THE FACTS The following segment aired on the morning show Forbes and Friends on CJAY- FM (Calgary) on August 11, 2003. In it, the hosts took a fake call from a Mr. Wong who offered to help the hosts learn some phrases in Chinese. The ensuing translations provided by Mr. Wong were in English but made to sound Chinese. (Phone rings) Host 1 : Host 2 : Host 1 : Mr. Wong : Host 2 : Mr. Wong : Host 2 : Mr. Wong : Host 2 : What could that be? I ll get it. Good morning, CJAY. Alright. Allo, it s me! Something want people Chinese food? Hi Mr. Wong. I hee you come to a big Chinese pa ty. I ha to teach you how to speak Chinese. Could you? Because there is some phrases I ve always wanted to learn how to say. What you want to know, I help you to. You call ask me, I tell you how to do. Ok. How do I say See me ASAP?

2 Host 1: Oh! See me A. S Come hee na Come hee na Come he na That s better. Ok, Ok. What about I think I need a face lift? Hmm, huh. Chin too fat.(hosts laughing). Chin too fat. Ohoo. Chin too fat! Ok, ok. How, how do I say small horse? Tiny pony Hosts 1 and 2: Tiny pony Both hosts: Host2: Host 1: Both hosts: Oh, you do good, you do very good. Ok. What about this one? This got me in trouble the other day. I thought you were on a diet. Oh! This a ha d one. Why you munching? Why you munching? Why you munching Ching Yeah. Ok, ok. What about this one: This is a tow away zone? No Pa king No Pa king No pa king, no pa king. Ok. How about He s cleaning his automobile? Washing ca a Washing ca a Washing ca a Ok. This one is for Wicksie: Your body odour is offensive. Ok. You stinky poo You stinky poo

3 Host 1: You stinky poo You stinky poo Ok, what about, what about just Great stuff? Fucking super. hahaha Oh, I m not saying that! On August 12, the complainant sent the CRTC a complaint that covered a number of issues. That complaint was forwarded to the CBSC in due course. That part of the correspondence which related to this show was the following (the full text of all correspondence in this file can be found in the Appendix): Most recent case August 11 th 2003 Forbes and Friends morning show Forbes, Hughes, Wicks and Malone broadcast a dialogue that demeans ethnic language (Chinese) On August 13, the complainant added a few brief points to his complaint. Among these, he said: 1) I am disgusted that CJAY 92.1 has targeted a specific ethnic group (Chinese and Asians) for ridicule and contempt. On August 11 th alone, I count three instances when demeaning remarks were made against Chinese people and Chinese language. This is not the only time CJAY has targeted Asians. In the past CJAY 92.1 has made other unflattering remarks about Chinese people and Asians in general. 2) I complained to CJAY 92.1 directly before I contacted the CRTC. They ignored my request to stop demeaning Asians and continued to broadcast their racist and demeaning humour throughout the day. (August 11 Forbes and Friends Morning Show, Zman Zack Hewitt 3:00 pm, Mel Risdon 9:20 pm) 3) CJAY 92.1 has made comments that will validate anti-asian sentiments in those individuals that already feel prejudiced against this group of people. The station s Vice President and General Manager replied to the complainant on August 27. He said in part: I am sorry that you found the banter aired between Jody Hughes and Gerry Forbes on August 11th as "most inappropriate". I am sure you can understand that humour is a very subjective issue. The humour on this program was based on the use of dialect voices. This is a common staple of comedy shows, dating back to Sid Caesar in the 1950's and

4 now found in such popular television programs such as the Simpsons, Saturday Night Live and the Just For Laughs Comedy Show carried by CBC. You can also see the Subjectivity of certain kinds of humour in popular television commercials such as the most recent Alexander Keith's campaign starring an outspoken Scottish individual in a role that some may feel is stereotypical. I can assure you that CJAY 92 does not "promote racism and prejudice", nor have we "singled out and targeted one ethnic group for ridicule and bigotry". On September 5, the complainant replied with a brief covering note; however, on September 8, he sent a longer explanation of his views to the broadcaster s Vice President and Station Manager. In that e-mail, he said, in part: As you know, I am offended by the content aired by CJAY on August 11 th during its morning show. Your reply to my original message was thoughtful and it is obvious you took some time to put the message together. However, after reading your message, I feel your ultimate goal is to protect CJAY and its radio announcers and not to address my concerns. This is the reason I have asked the CBSC to adjudicate my complaint. To be blunt, I feel your comments about subjective humour and humour based on dialect voices are nonsense. There is nothing funny or acceptable about what was aired on August 11 th, 2003. The banter between Jody, Forbes and another unknown voice actor was crude, disgusting and brings to mind some of the most offensive stereotypes imaginable. I would argue that CJAY 92.1 s habit of broadcasting skits like the one broadcast on August 11 th that it does promote racism and prejudice among its listening public. The ethnic comedy routine broadcast on August 11 th, 2003 was only the latest of a whole array of ethnic skits designed to mock and ridicule Asians in general. [ ] I have been really patient with CJAY and, in the past have tried to accept CJAY s offensive comments as SNL or Simpson s [sic] type humour. But now, after hearing all the degrading comments they have made against Asians, I see that CJAY seems to be more malicious than I thought they were in the past. My theory is that your radio station is has [sic] singled out and targeted one ethnic group for ridicule and bigotry. Unfortunately Mr. Peacock, your last letter has not convinced me this is not the case. THE DECISION The CBSC s Prairie Regional Panel considered the complaint under the Canadian Association of Broadcasters (CAB) Code of Ethics. The relevant provisions of this Code read as follows: CAB Code of Ethics, Clause 2 Human Rights Recognizing that every person has the right to full and equal recognition and to enjoy certain fundamental rights and freedoms, broadcasters shall ensure that their programming contains no abusive or unduly discriminatory material or comment which is based on matters of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, marital status or physical or mental

5 disability. CAB Code of Ethics, Clause 9 Radio Broadcasting Recognizing that radio is a local medium and, consequently, reflective of local community standards, programming broadcast on a local radio station shall take into consideration the generally recognized access to programming content available in the market, the demographic composition of the station s audience, and the station s format. Within this context, particular care shall be taken by radio broadcasters to ensure that programming on their stations does not contain: [ ] (c) Unduly coarse and offensive language. The Prairie Regional Panel Adjudicators reviewed all of the correspondence as well as a recording of the challenged broadcast. The Panel finds that the CJAY- FM broadcast in question did not breach the Human Rights Clause but did breach the Code provision relating to the use of coarse or offensive language. Discriminatory Humour The CBSC has long established the principle that it is not the mere mention of race, national or ethnic origin, skin colour, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, marital status or physical or mental disability which will be sanctioned, but rather only those which contain abusive or unduly discriminatory material or comment on the basis of the foregoing which fall afoul of this provision. Various CBSC Panels have also explained that there may be discriminatory comments made that do not rise to the level of a Code violation but may nonetheless be distasteful. In such cases, the principle of freedom of expression will protect the broadcast. It is only when comment is either abusive or unduly discriminatory that it will overcome the sanctity of freedom of expression to be considered as a Code violation. The line-drawing in which a CBSC Panel must engage to make such a determination is delicate. Moreover, it can be expected that such evaluations as favour freedom of expression are unlikely to salve the sensibilities of those who have complained about unpleasant or distasteful comments. Nonetheless, it is the responsibility of the Panels to draw such distinctions. In the present instance, the Panel concludes that the humour is neither deep nor cutting. It depends principally on the relatively light-hearted technique frequently applied in cases of ethnically-oriented humour, namely, the use of accents. While these are generally employed so as to leave the impression that the person or group that is the brunt of the joke is inferior, occasionally the issue is simply that the person or group is different. The Panel believes that this is the case in the matter at hand. The Panel considers that the Chinese community is not belittled, mocked or marginalized. It is the object of humour, to be sure, but not on the grounds of any alleged or even implied inadequacy, weakness or failure. In a somewhat similar circumstance, in CFYI-AM re Scruff Connors and

6 John Derringer Morning Show (CBSC Decision C01/02-279, June 7, 2002), the Ontario Regional Panel added that the use of an alien accent will require ancillary demeaning, degrading, harsh, nasty or negative commentary or association in order to be found in breach of the Code. The Use of the F-Word The CBSC position regarding the use of the f-word is far more cut and dried. Its use in songs has been ruled in breach of the Code in CIOX-FM re the songs Livin It Up by Limp Bizkit and Outside by Aaron Lewis and Fred Durst (CBSC Decision 00/01-0670, June 28, 2001), CJKR-FM re the song Highway Girl (Live) by The Tragically Hip (CBSC Decision 00/01-0832, January 14, 2002) and CFNY-FM re the song Cubically Contained by the Headstones (CBSC Decision 01/02-0456, June 7, 2002). In CKNW-AM re Warren on the Weekend (CBSC Decision 01/02-0721, January 14, 2003), the BC Regional Panel dealt with the use of the F-word by a caller to talk-show. In a discussion on celibacy in the priesthood, host Peter Warren took a call from Bob, who said Oh, dear. Peter, I don t want you to hear this but Jesus was anti-religious. And I m married to a queer and you can tell these religious bastards to fuck off. Warren responded with some exasperation, All right. Thank you very much. The program continued without anyone making any further reference to Bob s call. On the issue of the use of the F-word (other issues raised by the caller s intervention were also dealt with in the decision), the Panel stated: While the previous decisions each involved songs, the Panel considers that the principle established in these is as applicable to a spoken word situation. The use of the f-word, even by a caller, is the responsibility of the broadcaster. In the case of songs, it is of course evident that playing a recording is entirely in the hands of the broadcaster. While the case of an outside caller is not as controlled, broadcasters are expected to have the tools to cope with such circumstances. One such method is the delay system to which the host referred in the course of the broadcast. Another is, of course, the host s own microphone in an after-the-fact situation in which the caller somehow gets by level one. The use of the expression fucking super constitutes a breach of Clause 9 of the CAB Code of Ethics. Broadcaster Responsiveness Since one of the responsibilities of membership in the CBSC is, according to the CBSC Manual, to co-operate fully with complainants by responding quickly and effectively to their concerns, CBSC Panels always take the time, in the course of their deliberations, to review the broadcaster s responsiveness to the complainant. Compliance with this undertaking is a matter required in all files under consideration by the CBSC s Panels. The fact that the Vice President and General Manager s letter did not deal successfully with the complainant s issues

7 from the complainant s perspective presents no problem; it is, of course, always the case in matters that reach Panel adjudication. The obligation of the broadcaster is to state its position by responding thoughtfully and fully. The broadcaster has done that. Nothing more is required in this instance. CONTENT OF THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE DECISION CJAY-FM is required to: 1) announce this decision, in the following terms, once during prime time within three days following the release of this decision and once more within seven days following the release of this decision during the time period in which the morning show Forbes and Friends is broadcast; 2) within fourteen days following the broadcast of the announcements, to provide written confirmation of the airing of the announcements to the complainant who filed the Ruling Request; and 3) at that time, to provide the CBSC with that written confirmation and with air check copies of the broadcasts of the two announcements which must be made by CJAY-FM. The Canadian Broadcast Standards Council has found that CJAY- FM breached a provision of the Canadian Association of Broadcasters Code of Ethics in its broadcast of a skit on August 11, 2003. By failing to either cut out the caller s offensive language by use of the technical delay mechanism or even commenting on the inappropriateness of the offending word, the broadcaster aired coarse or offensive language in breach of Clause 9 of the CAB Code of Ethics. This decision is a public document upon its release by the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council.

APPENDIX TO CJAY-FM re Forbes and Friends (Chinese language translation)(cbsc Decision 02/03-1646, April 16, 2004) I. The Complaint The following complaint was sent to the CRTC on August 12, 2003 and forwarded to the CBSC in due course (see note below): I have a complaint to make against CJAY 92.1 a radio station in Calgary, Alberta. This radio station has made tasteless remarks about a particular ethnic group several times during the past few months. Most recent case August 11 th 2003 Forbes and Friends morning show Forbes, Hughes, Wicks and Malone broadcast a dialogue that demeans ethnic language (Chinese) Zman - Zack Hewitt 3:00 pm (approximate time) Repeats morning show program. Mel Rison- 9:20 pm Repeats morning show program. CJAY 92 has made tasteless ethnic comments 4 times in the past Singapore Whore song Wing the Wong Number Skit Korean/Chinese Sitcom gag I contacted the station myself to voice my concerns but they have ignored my request and have continued playing the morning show skit) I would appreciate any help you can provide concerning this matter. While dealing with the CRTC, the complainant requested that additions be made to his initial complaint. In an email dated August 13, the complainant wrote: Dear Mr. [ ]: Thank you for responding to my complaint against CJAY 92.1 FM, a radio station in Calgary so promptly. I would like to clarify some of the things I have read in the message you sent me. Please let me know if my assumption is correct. I assume that you have forwarded a copy of the complaint I submitted to the CRTC to CJAY 92.1 FM (Standard Broadcasting) and that they have three weeks to respond to this complaint. CJAY 92.1 (Standard Broadcasting) must respond directly to me and also must send you, a representative of the CRTC, a copy of this response. Is that correct? 1

I also assume that when you refer to my letter in your message you mean the message I sent to the CRTC using the online web form. If that s true, I would like to add a few brief points to my complaint. It is important to me that the radio station and its announcers understand why I am angry enough to complain about them to the CRTC. Dear CJAY 92.1 FM Staff I feel that it is very important for you to understand why I have taken steps I have in recent days. Below you will find the reasons I have filed a complaint to the CRTC against CJAY 92.1. I am disgusted that CJAY 92.1 has targeted a specific ethnic group (Chinese and Asians) for ridicule and contempt. On August 11 th alone, I count three instances when demeaning remarks were made against Chinese people and Chinese language. This is not the only time CJAY has targeted Asians. In the past CJAY 92.1 has made other unflattering remarks about Chinese people and Asians in general. I complained to CJAY 92.1 directly before I contacted the CRTC. They ignored my request to stop demeaning Asians and continued to broadcast their racist and demeaning humour throughout the day. (August 11 Forbes and Friends Morning Show, Zman Zack Hewitt 3:00 pm, Mel Risdon 9:20 pm) CJAY 92.1 has made comments that will validate anti-asian sentiments in those individuals that already feel prejudiced against this group of people. Clearly, CJAY 92.1 has violated Section 3 of the Radio Regulations, 1986. If these comments could be added to my original complaint, that would be appreciated. Thanks. II. The Broadcaster s Response The broadcaster responded to the complainant on August 27: Dear Mr. [ ]: Thank you for your correspondence dated August 11th, 2003 regarding content aired on the CJAY 92 Morning Show August 11, 2003. First of all, let me express my regret for your "anger, embarrassment and sadness". It is never our intention to offend any listener with the humour that is aired on CJAY FM. In addition, I am sorry that you found the banter aired between Jody Hughes and Gerry Forbes on August 11th as "most inappropriate". I am sure you can understand that humour is a very subjective issue. The humour on this program was based on the use of dialect voices. This is a common staple of comedy shows, dating back to Sid Caesar in the 1950's and now found in such popular television programs such as the Simpsons, Saturday Night Live and the Just For Laughs Comedy Show carried by CBC.

You can also see the Subjectivity of certain kinds of humour in popular television commercials such as the most recent Alexander Keith's campaign starring an outspoken Scottish individual in a role that some may feel is stereotypical. I can assure you that CJAY 92 does not "promote racism and prejudice", nor have we "singled out and targeted one ethnic group for ridicule and bigotry". As members in good standing of the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council, CJAY 92 is committed to broadcast programming of the highest quality. I hope this addresses your concern, and I appreciate your listening to CJAY 92. Letters from listeners like yourself will only help us to be a better radio station. Should you wish to discuss this matter any further, please feel free to contact me directly at [ ]. II. Additional Correspondence The complainant sent the following message to the CBSC on August 29: Dear Ms. [ ]: I have received a response to my complaint from Mr. [ ]. I must thank you for your assistance, without your help I do not believe I would have received a response at all. I have some questions I need to ask you: 1. I am not quite satisfied with the letter Mr. [ ] has sent me. I would like to send him another letter so we can discuss this matter further. Should I cc you any correspondence I send to him? 2. If I do choose to submit my complaint to the CBSC for adjudication and they make a ruling in favour of my complaint, what power do they have over the radio station? 3. I believe other people have submitted complaints against CJAY 92.1 before. Is there a place or website I can look at previous complaints made against the radio station? If there is a place or website where I can find this information please direct me to it. Thanks. The complainant sent the following message to the CBSC, along with a Ruling Request from, dated September 5: Dear [ ], I am not satisfied with the response the broadcaster sent me on August 27th and request that my complaint be adjudicated by a Panel of Industry and Public Representatives. I am returning the Ruling Request Form through this e-mail. If you have questions or comments please contact me. I will explain why I found Mr. [ ]'s response to my complaint unsatisfactory in a future message. Please respond so that I know this message has been received. Thank you.

The complainant wrote back to the broadcaster on September 8 with the following message: Dear Mr. [ ]: First off, I would like to thank you for taking the time to answer the e-maii sent to you on August 12 th, 2003. You will notice that I am also sending this message to members of the CBSC and to Jerry Forbes and the rest of the CJAY morning crew. It is very important to me that you, the CBSC and the rest of the CJAY 92.1 morning crew understand why I have taken the steps I have in recent days. As you know, I am offended by the content aired by CJAY on August 11 th during its morning show. Your reply to my original message was thoughtful and it is obvious you took some time to put the message together. However, after reading your message, I feel your ultimate goal is to protect CJAY and its radio announcers and not to address my concerns. This is the reason I have asked the CBSC to adjudicate my complaint. To be blunt, I feel your comments about subjective humour and humour based on dialect voices are nonsense. There is nothing funny or acceptable about what was aired on August 11 th, 2003. The banter between Jody, Forbes and another unknown voice actor was crude, disgusting and brings to mind some of the most offensive stereotypes imaginable. I would argue that CJAY 92.1 s habit of broadcasting skits like the one broadcast on August 11 th that it does promote racism and prejudice among its listening public. The ethnic comedy routine broadcast on August 11 th, 2003 was only the latest of a whole array of ethnic skits designed to mock and ridicule Asians in general. Just off the top of my head, I can name several instances when CJAY decided it was funny to mock and degrade Asians. Do the following songs and skits sound familiar to you? Perhaps Mr. Forbes and the rest of the morning crew will find the follow skits and songs familiar. Singapore Whore Song Wing the Wong number skit Korean, Chinese sitcom gag Korean Olympic committee mockery (After Vancouver was awarded the Olympic games) I have been really patient with CJAY and, in the past have tried to accept CJAY s offensive comments as SNL or Simpson s type humour. But now, after hearing all the degrading comments they have made against Asians, I see that CJAY seems to be more malicious than I thought they were in the past. My theory is that your radio station is has [sic] singled out and targeted one ethnic group for ridicule and bigotry. Unfortunately Mr. [ ], your last letter has not convinced me this is not the case. Mr. [ ], I know that you have invited me to call you so that we can discuss this matter over the telephone. I have decided not to do so because I do not believe that you and I can come to an understanding. To be blunt again Mr. [ ], you have showed me your interest is in preserving the reputation of CJAY and not in addressing my legitimate concerns. I can only hope the CBSC will make an acceptable ruling in the months to come. If you have any questions or comments feel free to contact me through e-mail. Thanks.