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LANSING CHAPTER OF TH E ASSOCIAT ION OF C E R T I F I E D F R A U D EXAMINERS President s Address Sarah L. Jennings, CPA, CFE Each year we try to thank all of our members for their support. This year we are hosting a Member Appreciation Golf Night, on Wednesday, July 23. I hope you are able to join us We are planning to play (or at least have fun trying) 9 holes and enjoying dinner at the clubhouse to end the evening. Please refer to page 4 for details. Board Elections Our annual board member recruiting season will run from today through Sunday, July 20. The survey for elections will be sent out the following week consistent to how we have operated in past years. We have 2 at-large positions as well as president and secretary available based on our rotational election schedule. Please contact me at president@lansingacfe.org and send along a brief bio if you are interested in running. This is a great opportunity to be exposed to additional professional contacts as well as add value to your community and colleagues. On a side note, I will not be running for again for president this year. I have truly been blessed with all of the volunteers and support that the Chapter has had and I am excited to see it continue to grow. We are now on our summer hiatus but in the planning stages for our seminars this fall and next spring. Any topic requests can be sent to me. We are always looking for input and interested presenters IN THIS ISSUE President s Address Payroll Fraud Through the Backdoor Investigator Tip: Addressing the Suspect s Behavior Upcoming Events Fraud Talk Podcast - Bitcoin Fraud: The Who, What, When, Where and Why LACFE Member Appreciation Golf Night Have a wonderful summer Sarah L. Jennings, President 1

Payroll Fraud Through the Backdoor Christopher L. Arsenault, CPA, CFE Since income tax filing season has recently concluded this fraud scheme is apropos. We are all aware of the typical payroll frauds: ghost employees, falsified time records and unauthorized rates. However, an article I recently read turned me on to a payroll fraud I never thought of before, a fraud scheme the author terms backdoor theft of payroll withholdings. In a nutshell the fraud scheme goes something like this. A payroll clerk intentionally overpays federal and or state payroll tax withholdings for the business as a whole. At year end when it comes time to prepare the year end W-2s the payroll clerk adds the overpaid withholding taxes to his or her W-2. The fraudster then claims the income taxes withheld on his annual income tax return and receives a larger tax refund then he would otherwise be entitled to. In essence the fraudster is using the government as a conduit to transfer the stolen funds. So what countermeasures can be taken mitigate the risk of this happening? A few come to mind. An individual independent of the payroll function could review the W-2s that are filed with the government and calculate the federal and state withholdings as a percentage of the taxable wages. Amounts in excess of a reasonable percentage, after considering total taxable wages and current tax brackets, should be investigated. Another countermeasure is the use of a payroll control liability account. When properly used all withholdings of employee payroll taxes, as well as the employer s share of payroll taxes, are credited to this account. As they are due the payroll tax deposits paid to the government are posted against this balance to settle the liabilities. This account should always have a credit or zero balance. A debit balance in this account is a red flag and such a balance should be investigated immediately. The article Backdoor Thefts of Payroll Withholdings by Charles Hall is available in its entirety at http://cpa-scribo.com/backdoor-thefts-of-payroll-withholdings. What countermeasures would you implement to mitigate the risk of this happening? Send your ideas to newsletter@lacfe.org and we will publish them in the next newsletter. 2

Investigator Tip - Addressing the Suspect s Behavior By John E. Reid and Associates, Inc - Recognized as The World Leader in Interview and Interrogation Training - www.reid.com It is human nature to cite a person's behavior as evidence to support some underlying premise. It is an enticing argument to state that because one exhibits an observable behavior it is proof of some consequent conclusion. Consider the following examples of reaching conclusions based on observed behavior: "If you were in proper shape you wouldn't be huffing and puffing the way you are." "I could tell by the way you two were looking at each other that it was love at first sight." "You're really quiet tonight. Something's got to be bothering you." "You can't even look at me when you answer my questions. What are you not telling me?" "Why are you smiling? Do you think this is funny?" "Only guilty people run from the police" This web tip is not about interpreting another person's observed behavior, but rather whether or not it is appropriate or productive to bring a suspect's attention to his or her observed behavior. During the course of a typical interview or interrogation, an investigator has many opportunities to openly address the suspect's behavior. Some of these efforts will be productive and lead to developing additional information or even a confession. In other instances, this same tactic may cause a suspect to resent the investigator or to psychologically withdraw, resulting in non-cooperation and an unsuccessful resolution of the investigation. The following are guidelines as to when it is appropriate to address the suspect's observed behavior: Guideline #1 Addressing a suspect's behavior to draw out observed emotions or physical condition is often productive. It is critical for an investigator to seek out the underlying cause of emotions or other observed physical conditions during an interview. Therefore, it is entirely appropriate to specifically address a suspect's apparent distress, fatigue, anger, or resentment. An exception to this rule is nervousness Continued on page 5 3

UPCOMING EVENTS Lansing ACFE Member Appreciation Event When: Where: Cost: Details: Wednesday, July 23, 2014, 5:00 pm The Medalist Golf Club, 1 5701 N Drive North, Marshall, Michigan (269) 789-4653 www.themedalist.com No cost to members In appreciation to all of our supportive members, we will be holding a member appreciation golf event on Wednesday, July 23. The first tee time will be at 5:03 (9 holes) and we will follow with dinner. Please RSVP to Sarah Jennings at president@lansingacfe.org if you are interested in joining us Fraud Related Interviewing and Interviewer Ethics When: Where: Cost: Details: July 18, 2014, 7:30 am Greater Chicago Chapter of the ACFE Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago 230 S. LaSalle Street, Chicago, IL 60604 $200 for members, $250 for non-members Full day seminar presented by renowned interviewing expert Don Rabon, CFE. LACFE members are eligible for the member rate of $200. In order to take advantage of this r a t e you will need to enter visiting at checkout. To register or obtain additional details go to www.acfechicago.org/meetingevent_registration. 4

LACFE Newsletter June 2014 Fraud Talk Podcast Bitcoin Fraud: The Who, What, When, Where and Why It appears that Bitcoin, one of many digital currencies, is beginning to be accepted in the mainstream. Does this change landscape for fraud examiners and auditors? In this podcast, Jacob Parks, J.D, CFE, ACFE Research Specialist, gives FraudTalk listeners an inside look into the origins of a new form of digital currency, and the risks and fraud schemes associated with it. The podcast is available for download at http://goo.gl/ba6oem. (Continued from page 3) or anxiety which will be addressed later. Examples of addressing a suspect's emotions or physical condition include: "I can see that you are upset and I'm sorry to have to ask you these questions but you need to understand that I have a job to do and that this is not at all personal." "You seem angry. Why are you upset?" "Is that you're stomach growling? When is the last time you've eaten?" "You seem tired. How much sleep have you had in the last 24 hours? Guideline #2 During an interview it is appropriate to address the suspect's apparent uncertainty. A suspect's uncertainty may be revealed by a delayed response, a shoulder shrug, eyes looking up to the ceiling or a decrease in volume. These behaviors do not mean that the suspect is necessarily lying, but rather is uncertain of his answer. Therefore it is often 5

(Continued from page 5) beneficial to address these observed behaviors as the following examples illustrate: (1) "You seem a little uncertain. Let me explain that our investigating will continue and we will be looking at all sorts of forensic and testimonial evidence. It's really important that everything you tell me today is consistent with what other evidence shows. With that in mind, let's go back over this area one more time..." (2) "It is apparent that you're not telling me everything you know. Your silence may make this thing last a lot longer than it has to and it could cause innocent people to be hurt. Please, tell me everything you know." Guideline #3 It is appropriate to address the suspect's use of memory or omission qualifiers. There are many words used within a response that qualify or modify the meaning of the statement. Examples include memory qualifiers such as, "To the best of my knowledge," or omission qualifiers, "generally", "as a habit", or "typically." An investigator should not bring up the suspect's use of qualifiers as an indication of guilt or deception, but rather that the suspect's use of these phrases implies something that requires clarification. For example: Q: "Did you fight with your wife that night?" R: "We rarely fought." Q: "When you say that you rarely fought it tells me that you have fought on occasion. What did you two usually fight about?" Q: "Did you have sexual contact with your niece?" R: "As far as I remember I didn't have that kind of contact with her." Q: "So you're not completely sure. What is the probability that you did have some sexual contact with her?... 95%... 90%... what do you think? 6

(Continued from page 6) Guideline #4 It is appropriate to bring factual inconsistencies to the suspect's attention. There may be innocent explanations for inconsistencies between a suspect's statements and other information and it is absolutely appropriate to offer a suspect the opportunity to offer an explanation for the inconsistency. Two examples of this include: (1) "You told me that you didn't leave your office on January 12th. I have a credit card charge on your Visa account indicating a $15.34 purchase at 12:33 that afternoon at a restaurant 4 miles from your office. When did you leave your office that day?" (2) "Last week you told me that you didn't recognize the photo of this woman. This woman's name is Sue Grahams. Sources tell me that you dated Sue Grahams on several occasions. When is the last time you've seen Sue? Guideline #5 During an interrogation it is often productive to comment on the suspect's observed behavior and use the suspect's behavior as an indication that the suspect is ready to tell the truth. In an effort to persuade a suspect to tell the truth it is often effective to comment on the suspect's observed behavior because the suspect is aware that, in fact, he is engaging in the behavior cited by the investigator. Some examples of this include: (Observed tears or crying) "Jim, those tears tell me that you care about this thing and want to get it resolved. For a while there I didn't think you cared about anything, but I see I was wrong. Let's put this whole thing behind you..." (Suspect is silent and appears withdrawn) "Mike, I can tell from looking at you that this has been bothering you for a long time. Your silence tells me that you are debating whether or not to tell the truth. Let me just ask you. What is the worst thing that could happen to you if you told me the truth today?" Guideline #6 Do not specifically address a suspect's apparent nervousness during an interview. Both innocent and guilty suspects may appear to be initially nervous during an interview. Under this circumstance the suspect may offer little eye contact, exhibit a tremor, frequently clear their throat or speak quietly. While it is appropriate to extend the period of time establishing rapport with such a suspect, it is inappropriate to specifically address their nervousness with statements such as, "I can see you're nervous - what are you afraid of?" or, "If you're innocent you have nothing to be nervous 7

LACFE Newsletter June 2014 (Continued from page 7) about." The reason for this is if an innocent suspect's nervousness is brought to their attention, directly or indirectly, often this has the effect of increasing the suspect's level of anxiety which can result in misleading behavior symptoms, poorer recall and less information learned during the course of the interview. A much more effective response to a clearly nervous suspect is for the investigator to sit back in his chair, reflecting a relaxed posture, and start the interview by engaging in several minutes of casual conversation, allowing the suspect to talk about safe topics that give him/her a sense of control and, physiologically, the somatic behavior of talking relieves anxiety. Once the investigator observes that the suspect appears more comfortable within the interview environment questions relating to the issue under investigation can be asked. Guideline #7 Do not mention the suspect's use of bolstering phrases or poor eye contact as evidence of his guilt. An innocent suspect who is interrogated concerning a crime he did not commit certainly may bolster his denials in some manner. After all, the investigator is not accepting the denial as the truth so the suspect feels the need to reinforce his denial. Similarly, there are many causes for innocent suspects to exhibit poor eye contact when answering an investigator's question. To comment on the suspect's lack of eye contact often increases the suspect's feelings of guilt and helplessness which results in less communication and poorer eye contact. Neither of these responses are typically productive, as the following examples illustrate: S:" I swear - honestly I didn't do this" I: "Only guilty suspects swear they didn't commit the crime. Stop lying to me" S: "I want an attorney." S: "I'm telling you the truth (break of gaze) I: "You can't even look me in the eye when you deny doing this. How do you think that's going to look to a jury?" [The suspect spends the rest of the interrogation staring at the investigatory and says nothing.] 8

(Continued from page 8) Guideline # 8 Do not use the suspect's nonverbal or paralinguistic behaviors as evidence of his guilt. The statements, "Your crossed arms tell me that you were involved in this thing" or, "You know what your laugh is called? It's called erasure and it is used by suspects who lie" are unlikely to cause a guilty suspect to blurt out a confession. In response to comments like these it is much more likely that the guilty suspect will either withdraw and remain silent for the rest of the interrogation or overcompensate and spend the rest of the interrogation leaning forward toward the investigator in an aggressive posture. In either event, by bringing the suspect's attention to his "deceptive" behavior certainly has not made it easier for the suspect to tell the truth and is, therefore, counterproductive. In conclusion, social learning teaches us that addressing another person's observed behavior can be an effective persuasive or empathetic technique. However, there are occasions when the tactic backfires and causes a person to be more withdrawn and less cooperative. It is often productive to use this tactic to elicit information about the suspect's general well-being, uncertainty or explanations for inconsistencies. Conversely, it is often counterproductive to use this tactic in an effort to elicit a confession by bringing to the suspect's attention his apparent "deceptive behavior." Consider the following as a basic guideline: bring the suspect's behavior to his attention to develop rapport and learn information but do not use this tactic as leverage to induce a suspect to confess. This Investigator Tip was developed by John E. Reid and Associates Inc. 800-255-5747 / www.reid.com." Inquiries regarding Investigator Tips should be directed to Janet Finnerty jfinnerty@reid.com. 9