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1107. (Reconvened at 5115 P.M., EDST.). testified aa tollowaa By Mr. Fierro& (AT SIDB B~.). By Mr. Brtela CLAIR J. KIPER, being du1y sworn according to law, Make me an offer at Side Bar. Yes. 'l'he man was Foreman at Eastern Wood Products. issued him a white helmet identical to this case. He never returned it when he left. He left the middle of the shift, baaical.l. That he worked from March, I can't give you the exact date, until mid-may, and he left with the white helmet and he has one here to identity, which is identical to the one. B:: 141'. Fierro 1 By Mr. Ertels By Mr. Fierro a Did he say he saw h~ take it? He is going to say he never gave it back. Objection. He By The Court I Over ruled. (END 01' SIDB BAR.) ~~ By Mr. Ertelz DIRECT EXAMIRATIOM Q. State your tull and occupation?

() > 110 (~~~ c~ () ) --- A. Clair J. Uper. Q. Your occupation? A. Foreman at Eastern Wood. Q. Do you know the Defendant 1 Kim Hubbard? A. I do. Q. Were you his Foreman there? A. I wu. Q. Do you recall when he came to work 1 Q. What date wa.a it? A. March 13 1 1913 Q. At that time did you issue him anything? A. Yes., Sir. Q. What did you issue him? A. A white helmet. (Commonwealth's Exhibit No. 125 marked.). Q. I show you marked as Commonwealth's Exhibit No. 125, can you identity that? Q. What is itt A. It 1a a helmet similar to the ones we issue. Q. And did that come from Eastern Wood? Q. Have you had the same type helmets? A. Yes. Q. Is that a scalp Helmet? rw A. It is.

f () ~ 1109. Q. I show you markad as Commonwealth's Exhibit No, ll5 1 and ask you it that is a Scalp Cap Helmet? A. The same thing. Q. How, when did Kim Hubbard leave Eastern Wood, if you know? A. May 21, 1973. Q. How did he leave, would you explain? By Mr. Pierro We object to how he lett, this was not the purpose ot the ottar. I think that it is relevant. By The Court I The objection is sustained at this t1~. Q. Did he leave at the end ot a shift or what? A, No, Sir. Q, When did he leave? A. He lett during a shift. Q. Did he ever turn in his helmet? Q. You are sure ot that? A. Positive. Q. Cross examination. ) CROSS EXAMINATION ~\'d By Mr. Pierro 1 Q. Well, when you say he never turned in his helmet, did you watch him walk ott ot the job?

---- - :;.""'' ~ C) (; - 0 1110. A. lfo, Sir. Q. You didn't? Ae Ko, Sir. Q. Well, then you don't know whether he was wearing this helmet when he walked ott the Job or not, you don't know, you didn't see him? A. Ko, Sir, but it was not turned into me. Q. I don't eare it' it was tumed into you or not, I am asldns you whether you with your own eyes saw Kim leave that plant, or whatever it is called, with that helmet on his head, did you or didn't you? A. lfo, Sir. Q. You did not see him, did you? ~~ Q. Does that helmet that is like Kim's, does that have dough on it or anything that is cake or dough or roll on it? A. Pardon. Q. Where you work, does that have any substance where you work that is like bread or cake or icing or anything alae? Q. What? A. We have a wax stain that is red. Q. A wax stain? Q. Well, rw mean that is like & cake substa.nee? A. No, Sir, it is wax. Q. Okey, that is all.

----"'.:<..:....:dl llll. RE-DIRECT EXAMINATION By Mr. Ertels Q. Would the helmet be turned into you as his Foreman? By Mr. Fierro& I object to that, it calls for his conclusion. By Mr. Ertel& Q. What color is that? By Mr. Pierro Just a minute, are you withdrawing that last question. I objected on the grounds it would be his conclusion, he knows it was turned into him or he doesn t know. ("') ' By The Court I The objection is sustained. Q. Is ityaur policy to turn into the helmet to the Foreman? By Mr. Fierro: I object, I would like to know what was done in this ease. Q. l-lhat color is that red wax you have? A. Red wax. Q. Is it bright, or white or medium? A. It could be brought, it could be very light. Q. I show you marked as Commonwealth's Exhibit No. 115, and ask you to look at that?

() r. \,. 1112. Clair J. ltiper. By Mr. Fierro: I don't want you to remove any of the substance on that Exhibit. I don't want the witness to remove any substance ott that exhibit. Q. Can you identity it? A. It could be red wa.x, it is red. Q. You don't know? A. No, I am not sure. Q. That is all. RE-cROSS EXAMINATION By Mr. Pierro: Q. Did ;you smell it? A. Wax haa no smell. Q. Did you smell the stuff on Exhibit No. 115? Q. You don't know what is on that Exhibit,. do you? By Mr. Ertel! Q. Do you want to smell 1 t 1 By Mr. Pierro Q. You don't want to smell it? A. Ho, Sir. Q. Step down. (Excused trom witness stand.).