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Ik PERCY HUMPHREY BAND PH:.. Also present: PH, Ernest Roubleau, Cie Frazier, Jim Robinson, Joseph Riesner, George Mallinson, [?J (Mrs. George) Mallinson, Oliver Miller, Richard B. Alien Transcript: Ralph Adamo.They'd have a popular number come out. By me playing popular music or what-not. They'd have rehearsal. First thing, they say, "Percy, how does such-and-such a thing 90?" And I'd go ahead and '- play it. I'd commit it to memory, and I'd go ahead and play it. And the whole eight, ten--at that time we had about fifteen or twenty men in the rehearsals. And they would all chop in. The other men-if they know how to read--the most of them put their music-hero's one used to tear-up their music. JR: I didn't tear it up... (some laughter) PH: He didn't want the music. You know what he said? "That don't sound good, you can't say what you want." And he wouldn'twouldn't--he forget he had the music. Willie Cornish, the man I was playing with-chesitation)...what used to work with Buddy Bolden-Cornish would buy the music. Had Joe Gabriel * playing bass. ER: That's very true.» PH: Walter Preston on-on banjo. CF: Banjo, yeah* PH? One man'read ing music. JR: Well, sure, that's right. PH: I was the only- JR: Same old bunch.

PERCY HUMPHREY BAND page 2 PH: -one reading music. (Someone chuckles.) See-they didn't want to play the way the man had put it down on the table, CFs Orchestration. PH: They wanted to play it" CF: (low) Their own ideas- PH: -the way they felt it. JR: Wasn't it right, wasn't it right? PH: And when they played it the way they felt it- JR: They were right too. [Laughs] PH:-they played it the way they felt it- JR: [Unintelligible] PH: -that was it. ER: They played it more beautiful than what was on t1"ie paper* JR: [Unintelligible], Dick. t [Unintelligible]; Dick. <J^*Ptt: Let-let-let me tell him this, Percy, Dick, you heard of the Superior Band, e'h? RA: Urn. [End of segment] JR: [Unintelligible..] years ago. RA: What did Buddy Bolden play? From a-you know--i hear he is one of the early ones. JR: Buddy Bolden was in this man's daddy's [age?] class [i.e., PH's

PERCY HUMPHREY BAND page 3 father's class.] I don't-this-l-l was ^ small kid. CF:[Percy'11.?] give you the history on Buddy Bolden. (Laughs) JR: But Percy can tell you about-he's got the understanding. His daddy's class. PH: (low) I don't know too much about Buddy-I mean- JR: He was tough. PH: (low, not in response) 2 I know--i know the man-- JR: --he was really rough, he was. PH: (low)-that man I worked with said he was a real-- JR: He's rough. ER: I heard he was tough. PH: (low) a real good-- JR: He's rough, he's rough. ER: I heard he was tough. I heard. PH: I don't know if he- ER: Course I-I never saw Buddy Bolden myself. JR: I was a small kid from just out of the country. My brothers [we're] older than me; I'm the youngest one in the family. They know'd him well, unders.tand, but I didn't know him-i was small. PH: I don't know if he played- JR: They tell me he was rough, (laughs) PH: Scott Joplin's music or what-

PERCY HUMPHREY BAND page 4 GM: What do you mean, "He was rough?" / JRs Eh? r, fcyeryem +oa CF: Mean-lie played good. JR: He played good, a+ onc-c, ^ PH: He played jazz, he played 1azz.--Good jazz. c^c>+.<) JRs Played good jazz, man CF: The slang the jazz musician use [mean?] good jazz. PH: Good j azz. CF: Good jazz, yes. GM: I was just thinking maybe he used a horsewhip on you. Everyone: No. Oh, no, no, oh no f no. (laughter) PH: He was a good jazz man, good jazz man, you know? JR: Yeah, he- PH? One of the best. One of the best they had. JR: --stick out. That trumpet--he gonna play it,.,. don't you^ worry. RA: You heard him, huh? C^f<>r- JR: Oh, no/ I was too small, Dick-was about this-my brothers-- OL^I^ PH: He was-[from?] what I could understand, he was exceptionally loud with the horn. And [he could be heard] -^ for miles and miles. RA: Do you know any of his numbers that he played? JR: I heard--!- PH: [Unintelligible] JR: About "King Bolden" or so-and-so that-~remember.

PERCY HUMPHREY page 5 ER: Yeah» \ JR: 'member? ^ ER: --thought I heard "King Bolden Say" JR: Bolden ER: That's his number all right, JR: I don't want to say the words. That's the way they were (laughs). ER" That's his number. JR: [Laughing] yeah. GM: What, "King Porter"? Several: No, no. JR: "King Bolden." ER: That's the name of that-fchat song he put out. Mrs. Mallinsons I'm out of coffee--how about [?] CF: No, ma*m, I got plenty enough. Thank you very much though. Drink a little water. Mrs. Ms...The dark one and the one with bourbon. RA: Let me pass this over to you. < Uh? RA: Do you want the dark one or the light one? [PH?]: He wants the dark one. Several: [Unintelligible[ JR: [5 or 6 words, unintelligible] (laughs) Several: [Unintelligible]

PERCY HUMPHREY page 6 CF: "I thought I heard Bu"ddy Bolden say?" (Laughs) J JR: "Funky Butt, Funky Butt (slurred). Take it away." (Laughs) 9. Boy, that's--he- CF: That's one of his old numbers. JR: But-but, see Percy's daddy used to play with them people, man. He was in their class, you know?-wiilie-cornish, Willie played in the band with you, Percy. PH: [and Bob Lyons, both. I used play with them both of them..] 'Ti' the bass-boy, too, *Ti( Boy was one of his bass players. ['Ti' Boy was Eddie Giomore's nickname. See Clarence Vincent,/reel I (Nov. 17, 1959?), p. 3 of digest-] JR: Willie Cornish and what-you-call-him-buddy Boldea. Boy, he [Will ie Cornish] was playing the valve trombone. CF: Valve trombone. JR and others: [Unintelligible..] JR... I said, "Ooo boy.' Gentlemen/ uh, don't worry about Mrs. Mallinson--she's heard me say everything in the business-what really did 'funky butt' mean? (Mrs. M- laughs.) CF: Take it away. _: (General muttering and laughter.) JR: I don't like that stuff--now go ahea^-jus'-~jus' (general laughter)

PERCY HUMPHREY BAND 7 page Q. GM: You better go outside. (General laughter) * GM: / It won't bother her; we were just wondering. (Laughter) [CF]: Well, that's, that's some of the words [of?] that number- JR: That's the words that's just put there. CF: Some of the lyrics, yes-- JR: 'Cause we don't like to put-put them things down like that. ER; (Laughs) That was his [?i. He played the number. That was -. his words in singing it. He had those words himself in singing it. JR: "King Bolden Say." [unintelligible] them words. See, Dick, know all that kind of old stuff? (Laughs) RA: Did you work with Lorenzo Staulz? JR: Who, me? --No. I didn't work with him. CF: Lorenzo Staulz? No, I never worked with him. RA: Did you work with him, anybody? CF: Lorenzo Staulz? I never did work with him, Dick, no. RA; They say he sang a lot with Buddy Bolden. CF; Oh, yeah. JR: Them fellows had good t musicians, man/ years ago; them people used to get them things and tie em together and-would go over big too, tell you. [Probably talking about advertising wagons.] CF: Yeah. ER: I never seen Buddy Bolden personally, but my father knowed h im.

PERCY HUMPHREY BAND page 8 My father knowed Buddy Bolden all right. JR: I didn't know him, but my brothers tcnowed him/ my oldest brothers.,f [ER?]: Put out that number and another number they put out called again "Come and Share Your Life with Me." [i.e., "Sweet Babby Doll"] [END OF SEGMENT]