READING THE TELLS - COMMUNICATION FOR INTERNAL AUDITORS TRAINER. AHIA 32 nd Annual Conference August 25-28, 2013 Chicago, Illinois

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1 READING THE TELLS - NON-VERBAL COMMUNICATION FOR INTERNAL AUDITORS JERRY BALISTRERI TRAINER AHIA 32 nd Annual Conference August 25-28, 2013 Chicago, Illinois www.ahia.org

Non-Verbal Communication Professional Uses 2 When you are in a meeting can you tell who may be bored and wants to leave? When you are in a meeting can you tell who may be nervous? Can you tell if someone lies or is deceptive? Can you tell if someone is genuinely interested in what you have to say? Can you tell if a client is displeased when negotiating a contract?

Non-Verbal Communication 3 Personal Uses Do you know what to look for if a date is going well? Your mother-in-law is telling a boring story, but you don t want to hurt her feelings. How should you display interest? Would you like to know if a person you are about to hire to come into your home to clean, care for an elderly parent, or care for your children are deceptive? Would you like to know if you are being deceived when the car repair person says they need to replace a part? Improve your poker game.

Objectives 4 Develop skills in reading key non-verbal tells. (what to look for and what it means) Understand the limbic system and its role in non- verbal communication. Know how to detect deception.

5 What Part of The Message Comes Through Mehrabian, Albert (1971) Silent Messages, Wadsworth Publishing Co. 60 50 40 30 20 10 0 Words 7% Vocal 38% Body Language 55%

The Limbic System 6 It is considered to be the honest brain in the nonverbal world (Goleman, 1995, 13-29). Consequently it gives off a true response to information o in the immediate e environment. e Why? It reacts instantaneously, real time, and without thought. In the non-verbal world, the limbic brain is where the action is. Many, but not all, non-verbal responses come from here. The remaining i parts of the brain are the thinking and creative parts. These are the non-honest parts of the brain. The brain that can deceive and deceives often (Vrij, 2003, 1-17). 17)

Base Lining 7 Definition: Observing a person s behavior when he or she is under normal, non-threatening circumstances. When does base lining begin? (Now - and it never stops) Why is base lining important? (When people deviate from their baseline, that is a red flag!)

Base Lining Con t 8 What to look & listen for: Speaking tone (engage in chit chat) Number of words/minute, and word flow Eye blink rate (normal relaxed rate is 20/M) Check for limbic reactions Use of hands while speaking Use of hands while listening Where the person s eyes are when asked a question Where a person s eyes are when answering a question How expressive their face is Etc.

Detecting Deception & Lying Is a Three Pronged Approach 9 1 1 Inadequate 2 Good but incomplete 3 Best chance to detect 1 2 3 2 1 deception 2

The Science of Lying 10 Why do people lie? 1. Help someone & make ourselves feel good. (pro-social lie) Example Answering, Does this dress make my back side look big? 2. Make ourselves look better while not hurting another. (self enhancement lie) Example I have a Ph.D! 3. Personal benefit at the expense of another. (a selfish lie) Examples I can t do this presentation because I have to take my wife to the airport. Tax preparation. 4. Deliberately damage another. (anti-social lie) Example I saw Bob take the money. Paul Ekman 2001 UC-San Francisco

Lying Statistics 11 Lying is becoming easier and easier for people these days. American s lie and are lied to much more than we realize. The book The Day America Told The Truth says that 91 percent of Americans lie routinely. USA Today In her book Liespotting, Pamela Meyer indicates we encounter nearly 200 lies a day. Liespotting, 2010

Lying Statistics Con t Honesty by Profession 12 Top Rated 1. Nurses 85 % 2. Pharmacists 75 % 3. Medical Doctors 70 % 4. Engineers 70% 5. Dentists 62% 6. Police Officers 58% 7. Clergy 52% 2012 Gallup Poll Honesty & Ethics

Lying Statistics Con t Honesty by Profession 13 Bottom Dwellers Insurance salespeople 15% Senators 14% HMO Managers 12% Stockbrokers 11 % Advertising practitioners 11 % Congress 10% Car salesmen 8 % 2012 Gallup Poll Honesty & Ethics

Content & Structure 14 What creates content and structure? YOUR QUESTIONS! There is no such thing as a bad interviewee. There are only bad interviewers. Questions must be structured clear and concise, so thereis no room for the respondent to wiggle outof. Example: Do you know the location of the body?

Content & Structure Con t 15 That was a poorly stated question for the following reasons: 1. What if an accomplice disposed of the body? 2. What if your suspect dumped the body in a river and the body is now miles downriver from the dump site? Fraud related questions: Have you seen the ring since filing the claim? What do you know about the fire? How did you get injured?

Content & Structure Con t 16 What to look & listen for? 1. Didn t answer the question. Example: Question - Did you take the wallet? Response Why would I take that wallet? I don t need to steal, I make good money. I m not the type of person that would steal.

Content & Structure Con t 17 2. Changes in tenses and nouns. Susan Smith, TV Appearance October 1994 I just can't stress it enough that we -- we just got to get them home. We're -- that's just where they belong, with their mamma and daddy. Critical Review? When a pronoun takes the place of a noun, that s an indicator of deceit and distancing. No first person usage.

Content & Structure Con t 18 Susan Smith, TV Appearance November 1994 I would like to say to whoever has my children, that they please, I mean please bring 'em home to us where they belong. I have put my faith in the Lord, and I really believe He's taking care of them. They're too beautiful and precious that He's not going to let anything happen to them. Citi Critical Review? Changing pronouns (whoever to they) Distancing (bring em and them)

Areas To Look for Tells 19 Face Hands and fingers Arms Upper body (chest, shoulders, trunk) Lower body (legs, feet)

Body Language g 20 What to look and listen for: 1. Pacifying behaviors. (hands to face, neck, ears, suprasternal notch, etc.) 2. Any blocking maneuvers. 3. Question induced responses. (limbic) 4. Change from baseline. (breathing, sweating, dry mouth, voice pitch, etc.) 5. Speech errors. (enunciation, hesitations, etc.) 6. Create silent time between questions. (uncomfortable silent and watching induces more detail) 7. Observe the entire body but focus in on face and eyes. (knowing their eyes are being watched induces limbic reactions) 8. Subject asks for questions to be repeated. (thinking time, stalling)

21 Supra Sternal Notch

Detecting Deception 22 Deception and/or lying initiates a stress reaction in most people. The stress is fear of being detected d or caught. Stress can be further induced via guilt. Nervous fingers Eye contact shifting Rigid and/or defensive posture Sweaty palms and/or face Variations in pitch, amplitude, and rate of speech Abnormal speech hesitation and speech errors (thinking) Increased embellishments of story or parts of the story Micro-expressions - micro-bursts Inconsistency in story

23 Deception and Eye Direction

24 Putting It All Together

Putting It All Together 25 Science of Lying (Lied to benefit self, and harm others) Content & Structure (word usage tense, pronouns, contractions, etc.) Body Language (no tears, eyes cast down, pacifying behaviors)

26 Who s Good At It!

Are You Observant? 27 To get good at any skill requires practice (basketball, golf, etc.) Doctor/student story What changed on Jerry?

Bibliography 28 2008, Secrets of Body Language, History Channel. Blair, J.P., Horvath, F. (1996). Detecting ti of Deception Accuracy Using the Verbal Component of the Behavior Analysis Interview Model, Michigan State University. Cummings, g, S. (2008) Mystery y at Bootleggers Cove,, Dateline TV, NBC. Ekman P. Telling Lies: Clues to Deceit in the Marketplace, Politics, and Marriage. New York, NY: WW Norton & Company; 2001. Gallup Poll, Honesty &Ethics, 2012. Goleman, D. (1995). Emotional Intelligence. New York: Bantam Books. Lickley, Robin, Who Makes Better Liars, Queen Maragaret University. Mehrabian, Albert (1971) Silent Messages, Wadsworth Publishing gco.

Bibliography Con t 29 Meyer. Pamela, (2010) Liespotting, New york, St. Martin s Press. Morris, D. (1985) Body Wthi Watching. New York; Crown Publishers. Navarro, J. (2008). What Every Body Is Saying. HarperCollins Publishers. Pearlman, a G. (2007). How To Spot a Liar,, The Palm Beach Times. Smith, D, and Smith, S, Television Interview, 1994. The Reid Nine Steps of Interrogation, In Brief. Practical Aspects of Interviewing and Interrogation. John Reid and Associates, Chicago, IL. USA Today Poll, Varsamis, C. (2005). How To Detect Liars In Your Business & Personal Life, Atil Article Alley. Vrij, A. (2003). Detecting Lies and Deceit: The psychology of lying and the implications for professional practice. Chichester, UK: John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.

Jerry Balistreri 30 (907) 346-3466 balis@acsalaska.net www.readingthetells.com

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