CT Numbers: Think of a number, double it, add 20, divide by 4. Jane Edwards Royal Free Hospital, London

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CT Numbers: Think of a number, double it, add 20, divide by 4 Jane Edwards Royal Free Hospital, London

Background 2 different manufacturers CT scanners available on site: GE Lightspeed Plus; Philips Brilliance 64; Differences noted by clinicians in CT numbers for same pathology in same image viewed on different manufacturers workstations;

What where they looking for? Looking at cystic lesions in liver, kidney and pancreas to determine pathology; HU Classification -10 to 10 Water 10-20 indeterminate > 20 indeterminate/ suspicious

Plan of action Scan Philips IQ phantom on both scanners;

Philips CT Phantom 6 1 2 7 5 3 4 1 Nylon [Calculus/Soft Tissue: 104HU] 2 Polythene [Fat: -66HU] 3 Teflon [Bone: 1022HU] 4 Perspex 5 Acrylic [Calculus: 141HU] 6 Lexan [Calculus: 117HU] 7 Water [-2.3HU]

Philips CT Phantom 1 6 2 7 5 3 4

Plan of action Scan Philips IQ phantom on both scanners; Use matching scan parameters;

Scan Parameters Philips kv 120 Set mas/slice 335 Scan time (s) 1 Collimated slice (mm) 40 Thickness (mm) 16x2.5 Increment 0 FOV (mm) 250 Resolution Standard Filter Std Edge EB GE kv 120 Set mas/slice 335 Scan time (s) 1 Collimated slice (mm) 10 Thickness (mm) 4x2.5 Increment 0 FOV Small Analysis of middle image Image 8 Analysis of middle image Image 2

Plan of action Scan Philips IQ phantom on both scanners; Use matching scan parameters; Send images to all combinations of workstations and scanners available;

Philips Scanner Images on Philips Scanner Philips EBW_1 CT Reporting ADW_1 CT Reporting Philips EBW_3 Main Reporting Philips EBW_2 CT Reporting GE Demo Main Reporting GE Scanner Philips Scanner

GE Scanner Images on GE Scanner ADW_1 CT Reporting GE Demo Main Reporting Philips EBW_1 CT Reporting Philips EBW_2 CT Reporting Philips EBW_3 Main Reporting GE Scanner Philips Scanner

Plan of action Scan Philips IQ phantom on both scanners; Use matching scan parameters; Send images to all combinations of workstations and scanners available; Analyse images;

The Results Philips Scanner Philips Scanner CT Workstation (ADW_1) EBW_2 Philips WS (CT reporting) EBW_1 Philips WS (CT reporting) EBW_3 Philips WS (Main reporting) Demo GE WS (Main reporting) Philips Scanner (re-sent) GE Scanner PACS ROI Area (mm 2 ) 200 202 199 200 201.9 204 200 200 Material Lexan Perspex Teflon Polyethylene Aculon Water 119.9 143.3 1013.1 119.9 143.9 1012.4 119.8-66.3 102.2-1.2 120.98 144.45 1014.32-65.55 103.21-0.45-65.6 103.1 120.1 143.9 1012.8-65.5 103 1 143.8 1012.5-65.5 103 120.88 144.32 1014.36-65.39 103.23-0.57 118.4 141.8 1010.6-67.3 101.3-0.9 120.85 144.35 1014.36-65.45 103.04-0.27 122 146 1017-66 103-1 4 4

The Results GE Scanner GE Scanner CT Workstation (ADW_1) EBW_2 Philips WS (CT reporting) EBW_1 Philips WS (CT reporting) EBW_3 Philips WS (Main reporting) Demo GE WS (Main Reporting) Philips Scanner GE Scanner (re-sent) PACS ROI Area (mm 2 ) 200 203 201 201.5 201.9 204 200 200 Material Lexan Perspex Teflon Polyethylene Aculon Water 112.19 133.17 915.46-54.1 101.08 3.42 112.2 133.17 916.49-54.15 101.1 3.5 135.7 157 940.2-30.6 124.6 27.9 111.7 132.9 916.4-54.6 100.6 3.8 135.7 156.9 940.3-30.6 124.6 27.7 112.09 3.1 110.3 132.1 914.9-56 98.9 2.4 112.04 133.23 916.39-54.19 100.98 133.32 916.63-54.1 101.14 3.1 112.1 133.2 915.4-54.1 101.1 3.4

What happened next. Philips engineers called in to investigate Showed them the problem and they agreed to investigate;

The Images.

The Images.

The Images.

The Images.

What happened next. Philips engineers called in to investigate Showed them the problem and they agreed to investigate; Updated software on rogue workstation;

What happened next. Philips engineers called in to investigate Showed them the problem and they agreed to investigate; Updated software on rogue workstation; Now all Philips workstations display offset CT numbers for non Philips images;

And then what? Reported the problem to the radiologists; Tried to get some more input from Philips; Started looking at the DICOM headers for each set of images; Repeated the test following a software upgrade on the scanner

Conclusions Private DICOM tags are being applied to the GE images to cause this offset; Only a problem on certain versions of software provided; Only appears to be a problem on the Extended Brilliance Workspace (EBW) software available on workstations;

The Outcome The clinicians no longer analyse non- Philips images on Philips Workstations to prevent misdiagnosis occurring;

Any ideas? Any ideas of other things we can look at would be greatly appreciated