the following day? No. MS. COREY: Thank you. Nothing further, Your 0 Honor. THE COURT: May she be excused? MS. COREY: Yes, sir. MR. STROLL: Yes, sir. THE COURT: Thank you, ma'am. You're excused. (Witness excused.) THE COURT: Next witness, Mr. Strolla. MR. STROLL: Travis Oliver. THE COURT: Travis Oliver. If you'll come forward, please, sir, and right before the clerk if you'll raise your right hand she'll administer the oath. TRVIS OLIVER, having been produced and first duly sworn as a witness on behalf of the Defendant, testified as follows: THE WITNESS: I do. THE COURT: ll right, sir, if you'll come over right around this way for me. nd, Detective, if you'll just keep your voice up and speak right into the microphone. Mr. Strolla. MR. STROLL: Thank you, Your Honor. DIRECT EXMINTION
BY MR. STROLL: Please -- could you please state your name and spell your last name for the record? Travis Dwayne Oliver, Senior, O-L-I-V-E-R. nd how are you employed, sir? The Jacksonville Sheriff's Office. Okay. nd are you a homicide detective? Yes, I am. nd were you one on November rd,? 0 Yes, I was. Were you called out to aid Detective Musser in this case? Yes, I was. Okay. Without going into too much detail, did there come a time where there was an issue about child safety locks with the red SUV? Yes, there was. Okay. Do you recall the date that you went out to the warehouse to check it? No, I don't have a recollection of an actual date. Okay. Did you fill out a report, sir? Yes, I did. Did you know you were coming here to testify? Yes, I did.
Did you bring your report? Yes, I did. Go ahead and look at it to refresh your recollection. Please don't read from it as it's not in evidence but let me know when you refresh your recollection, sir. I authored supplement number ten. That date is not documented in that supplement. I believe it's in Detective Musser's supplement. 0 Do you have Detective Musser's supplement? Yes, I do. Go ahead and look at Detective Musser's supplement then and refresh your recollection. Would it help if you look towards December th,? either. There's no listing of that in his report Okay. So without recalling a date do you recall at some time you checked the car with technician Karen Smith? We went to the car on several times. We went out there with Karen Smith and we went back there again with Detective Whittlesey. Okay. nd do you recall that day, also, is you checked the door locks of the red SUV, the back child safety locks, is that correct?
Yes. Okay. MR. STROLL: Can I have defense, please? BY MR. STROLL: Sir, does that look like one of the child locks from the red SUV? Yes, it does. Okay. nd is that an accurate depiction of 0 how you looked at it and found it when you were with technicians Whittlesey and Smith? MR. STROLL: Can I go to defense? BT MR. STROLL: Is that also another picture of that red SUV door with the child lock? Is that also accurate in the way it depicts the way you found it with technician Smith and technician Whittlesey? MR. STROLL: Can I go to defense? BY MR. STROLL: Does that appear to be the other side of the red SUV child lock door?
Is that also accurate the way you found it with technician Whittlesey and technician Smith? Yes. Defense, same question. Does that accurately reflect the door with the child locks? Would that actually reflect the way you saw it that day? 0 On that day, yes. ll right. MR. STROLL: nd, please? BY MR. STROLL: Is that the door to the back SUV that would be opened and the child lock would be on the other side? That's the -- The red SUV, the back door to the red SUV? Yes. The child lock would be on the inside of the doors. Correct. nd, same question, that's just a close-up of the same door open, is that correct? That's correct., another of that door, is that correct? 0? Now do you recognize that in defense
0 exhibit 0? Yes, I do. Is that the same back seat you sat on when you guys discovered there was a tripod underneath that seat? Did you ever move or do anything to that tripod or manipulate that tripod at all? 0 Yes, we did. Okay. What did you do to it? We sat in the seat and -- Hold on. Did you manipulate the tripod? I didn't mean did you sit on the seat? tripod. Yes. I'm telling you how we manipulated the Okay. ll right. Go ahead. We sat in the seat and attempted to pull the tripod from underneath the seat from the position we were sitting in. Then after we were unable to pull the tripod from the seat in a sitting position we got out of the car, opened the rear passenger door and pulled it from the end of the seat and was able to move it out of the car. Okay. Can you tell me where you put in your supplement everything you just testified to?
I was meeting with the evidence technician and we were under the impression at that time that the evidence technician documents what their actions are since I was meeting with him. Okay. But you were the one that sat on the seat, right? 0 Yes. Did Detective Musser sit on the seat? No, he did not. Did the evidence technician sit on the seat? No, I did not. nd you didn't put it in your report, is that true? No. Once again we were under the impression that the evidence technician was documenting that. Understood. Would you say that's a true and accurate depiction of what the underneath of that seat looked like? Did you leave the tripod where you found it after you sat on it and tried to wiggle it? crime. Yes, because it was not any evidence of our That's okay. MR. STROLL: Can I go to defense?
BY MR. STROLL: That's the other side. Would that also be accurate that the tripod would be on the complete other side of that seat? That's the other side of what? The seat. What is it the other side of? This is the other -- do you recognize this as 0 the left side, the left rear side of that seat underneath it? I never viewed the seat from the left side of the vehicle. Okay. So you're saying even though you recognize defense 0 you don't recognize defense? That's correct. Did you ever have Detective Whittlesey take pictures of underneath that seat? I never instructed Detective Whittlesey on what to take pictures of. Okay. Did Detective Musser instruct Detective Whittlesey to take photos? No. We never instruct our evidence technicians what to take photos of. So it's not your job? No.
MR. STROLL: Nothing further, Judge. THE COURT: Cross. MS. COREY: May I? THE COURT: Yes. CROSS EXMINTION BY MS. COREY: Detective Oliver, isn't it true that on the Friday evening of November rd, you never knew the child locks could be relevant? 0 No. Or on the day after that? No. ll right. So did you specifically request any of the evidence technicians to test or otherwise look at those child locks -- No, we did not. -- before that red Durango was taken from the gas station? No, we did not. Let me show you what's been marked into evidence -- I need just one minute, as state's exhibit, and I'll ask you, sir, the photos that Mr. Strolla showed you isn't how you operate the child locks, is it? No, it's not.
People don't open their back doors and operate the child locks with that little black latch, do they? No. When you -- when the child locks are activated you have to open the vehicle from the outside. They're there for children not to open from the inside of the vehicle. Right. So those latches aren't what someone 0 would move to show whether or not they were on or off, are they? No. In fact, in state's exhibit it's just a little button along the driver's side door that somebody could hit accidentally if they didn't know it was important, isn't it? That's correct. nd so one of those buttons along the left is what operates those child locks, isn't it? That's correct. nd because y'all didn't know it was important you didn't bother to document the position of it before you guys had this car towed from the Gate Gas Station, is that correct? That's correct. That's correct. MS. COREY: Thank you. No further questions,
Your Honor. MR. STROLL: Can I leave state's up, Judge? THE COURT: Sure. REDIRECT EXMINTION BY MR. STROLL: Detective Oliver, that's the locks for the windows, correct? 0 -- MR. STROLL: Nothing further, Judge. THE COURT: May he be excused? MR. STROLL: Yes, Your Honor. THE COURT: Ms. Corey, may he be excused? MS. COREY: He can, Judge. THE COURT: Thank you, Detective. MS. COREY: Judge -- well -- MR. STROLL: ctually, you know what, Judge THE COURT: Hang on. MR. STROLL: I was going to say if I can rewind I am going to keep him under subpoena subject to recall, Judge. THE COURT: Okay. MS. COREY: Well, then -- and I do have one more question.
RECROSS EXMINTION BY MS. COREY: Mr. Strolla asked you if that's the locks for the windows. There's multiple locks on that handle, aren't there? That's correct. MS. COREY: Thank you. That's all, Judge. THE COURT: Okay. Well, you're excused for 0 now but subject to recall. THE WITNESS: Okay. (Witness excused.) THE COURT: Next witness. MR. STROLL: Judge, one moment, Your Honor. THE COURT: Yes, sir. MR. STROLL: Judge, we would call Don Moes. THE COURT: Don Moes. Mr. Moes, if you'll come all the way up to the front for me, please, sir. nd if you'll raise your right hand the clerk will administer the oath. DON MOES, having been produced and first duly sworn as a witness on behalf of the Defendant, testified as follows: THE WITNESS: I do. THE COURT: ll right, sir, if you'll come right around this way for me. You can have a seat